Braveheart
 
 
 
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    June 13, 2012
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Dainese Racing D1 Perforated Jacket With all of the style and protection found in Dainese's most expensive race grade leather jackets, the Racing D1 is everything you need to hit the street or the track. Co-injected shoulders with aluminum inserts and race grade Tutu cowhide leather with strategically placed elasticated inserts, take protection and performance to the next level and give it that unique look and feel only found in high-end race jackets. A 360 degree connection zipper allows you to connect the Racing D1 to your favorite pair of Dainese leather pants for a weekend at the track or an afternoon of canyon carving. The versatile Racing D1 gives you track level performance for any ride. Protection Composite protectors certified to EN 1621.1 Standard Co-injected shoulder with aluminum insert Jacket certified to CE Category II - 89/686/EEC Directive Ergonomics and Comfort Perforated tutu Cowhide leather S1 fabric Inserts in elasticated fabric Microelastic elasticated inserts Full leather collar Waist adjustment with buttons Jacket-trousers fastening system Air inlets on the chest NanoFeel liner 3D Bubble lining Other Features Pockets for G1 and G2 back protector and Dual Chest Protectors Reflective inserts Soft insets Internal pockets (double chest zip) 2 outer pockets Denoted as Dainese G. Racing D1 Pelle in Dainese catalog Note Black/Black/Black image shown is of perforated version. Other images are non-perforated images.
 
Overall rating 
3 / 5
3 / 5
What's Happening With Cut and Sizing, Dainese?
PostedJune 4, 2015
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Braveheart
From Fairfield
State:CT
Rider Type:Gear Geek
Age:35-44
Gender:male
Bang for the Buck 
3 / 5
3 / 5
Style 
3 / 5
3 / 5
Comfort 
3 / 5
3 / 5
Protection & Durability 
2 / 5
2 / 5
Air Flow 
3 / 5
3 / 5
Features 
3 / 5
3 / 5
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I am not sure what is happening in the quality control department at Dainese but I just bought this jacket and for the third time with one of their products recently, I have had weird sizing issues. I have always been a dead nuts on 50 in all their leather but things have been getting very erratic.
I had a Trickster suit which I sold, regretted it and immediately bought another one. Both exactly the same size, color and model. One I wore regularly, with back protector, from day one with no issues with size. The new one I bought a few weeks later I couldn't zip up, even without a back protector in.
Same thing with Dainese boots. I recently replaced one pair with an identical pair of the same size and the right boot of the new pair was so out of spec (too small) I couldn't walk on that foot for an hour after taking it off.
Now we come to the Racing D1 perforated jacket. On the Revzilla website it looks like a nice, stylish, body hugging, racing inspired street jacket with pockets for their new two piece chest protector (I always hated the old one piece which was held in place with a single sided pocket). Just what I need to go with my new 1299 Panigale. I ordered the usual 50 and when it arrived I knew something was off almost immediately. It just looked huge on the hanger. Sure enough when I pulled it on it's close to being OK across the chest but the arms are massive, especially the forearms. I have added photos of the forearm of the Racing D1 versus a Dainese Speed Naked I have in exactly the same size. I put a tape on it and the Racing forearm is about 2" wider all round. A naked bike jacket should not be tighter than a racing inspired jacket. There's no way the armor is going to stay in place with that much free play. Dropping down a size may help with the arms a little but the chest is going to be too tight. It looks like it was made for Popeye. The cut is just way off what it should be.
I was also considering the Dainese Super Rider and saw that Anthony is recommending going TWO sizes down from your usual! That's wildly off what it should be and the opposite of what one would expect with an Italian product. Then I saw Dainese are charging nearly a grand for half a leather jacket and decided it wasn't for me :-)
My issue with this product is that sizing and cut is getting very erratic and drifting away from how it should fit for its intended use. It needs to fit closely across the whole body of it's going to protect the rider and this one doesn't. I think Dainese need to dial back the vast number of products they are putting out and focus on quality, fit and finish on a core product range. Maybe then I can go back to having confidence in ordering a particular size knowing it will fit as expected upon arrival.
Rides: 2015 Ducati 1299 Panigale S
No, I do not recommend this product.
+6points
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Dainese Bonneville Jeans For those of you out there who like their jeans to fit slimmer, the Dainese Bonneville Slim Jeans are just the ticket. A slimmer cut and nearly invisible Pro-Shape armor in the knees keep these jeans tighter through the leg, eliminating bulk and maximizing style. The Bonneville Jeans are also equipped with 100 DuPont Kevlar Jersey in the high impact areas and pockets for Pro-Shape hip armor, giving these too-hip-to-quit riding jeans the level of protection the riding community has come to expect from Dainese Denim. Protection Adjustable Pro-Shape on the knees soft protectors certified to Standard EN 1621.1 Pro-Shape hips pocket Ergonomics and Comfort Internal reinforcements with DuPont Kevlar jersey Slim fit Belt loops Other Features Predisposition for straps under the foot Stone wash treatment Light-reflecting inserts
 
Overall rating 
2 / 5
2 / 5
Not Fit For Purpose
PostedJune 2, 2015
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Braveheart
From Fairfield
State:CT
Rider Type:Gear Geek
Age:35-44
Gender:male
Bang for the Buck 
1 / 5
1 / 5
Style 
3 / 5
3 / 5
Comfort 
3 / 5
3 / 5
Protection & Durability 
1 / 5
1 / 5
Air Flow 
3 / 5
3 / 5
Features 
1 / 5
1 / 5
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I wrote my original review before putting too many miles on these jeans so, to be fair, have rewritten it now I have had a chance to test them properly.
First off, it concerns me that these are being sold by Dainese as riding jeans. The areas of Kevlar lining are tiny (see other reviewers photos of the inside) and the armor is extremely thin and covers a very small area.
What really worries me is the misleading perception of the safety built into these jeans. I pulled my original review because I noticed they claim on the waistband in bold red print that the denim yarn itself is "reinforced". I figured this meant some kind of abrasion resistant thread was actually woven into the denim which negated the need for Kevlar lining everywhere. However, upon further investigation I saw that the label states "100% cotton", i.e. 100% exactly the same material as regular jeans. I am confused as to how one reinforces 100% cotton to be more abrasion resistant than 100% cotton.
It's a shame as I began to like the way these look and fit. The cut is not quite as slim as I'd like but it also has no elasticity so a slightly looser fit helps with comfort. There is still a touch of the dated "carpenter" pants look that Dainese seems to favor (oversize pockets, panel details and jets) but they are getting there with the style.
Really, a company like Dainese need to do better, especially at this price point. It's pretty straightforward to put Kevlar in the entire seat, thighs and hips and give decent, subtle armor coverage. Or weave something into the denim yarn. Plenty of manufacturers are doing it now. As it stands with the little abrasion coverage they have you'd better hope you slide down the road on the tips of your knees or the cheeks of your rear-end as if anything else touches the Tarmac I can't see how it wouldn't burn through instantly like regular denim and that's totally unacceptable for a product that is being marketed as it is. I hope I am wrong and there is something magical which can be done to 100% cotton to make it abrasion resistant but I sense a bit of a technicality being used to oversell a product's effectiveness here.
I love Dainese gear when they get it right but this product needs serious revision to make it suitable as a riding jean in my opinion. With better Kevlar coverage I'd buy them again but I fear for my skin in these as they are.
Rides: 2013 BMW S1000RR
No, I do not recommend this product.
+7points
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Dainese Pony C2 Perforated Leather Pants The Dainese Pony C2 Pants are inspired by Dainese's racing offerings, but with a much less aggressive fit and a look appropriate for the street. Constructed from perforated cowhide leather and generous S1 stretch panels, the Pony Pants do not lack in the safety department with composite protectors at the knees and Pro-Shape soft protectors at the hips. Protection Composite protectors certified to EN 1621.1 Standard Pro Shape soft protectors certified to Standard EN 1621.1 at sides Pants certified to CE Category - 89/686/EEC Directive Ergonomics and Comfort Cowhide leather S1 fabric Elasticated inserts Double calf zip Jacket-trousers fastening system Sanitized lining Localized perforation Non perforated version available Other 2 outside pockets Denoted as Dainese P. Pony C2 Pelle Estivo in Dainese catalog
 
Overall rating 
3 / 5
3 / 5
A Change for the Worse
PostedAugust 21, 2014
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Braveheart
From Fairfield
State:CT
Rider Type:Gear Geek
Age:35-44
Gender:male
Bang for the Buck 
3 / 5
3 / 5
Style 
4 / 5
4 / 5
Comfort 
4 / 5
4 / 5
Protection & Durability 
4 / 5
4 / 5
Air Flow 
3 / 5
3 / 5
Features 
3 / 5
3 / 5
The originals were my "go-to" sport touring pants last year but I wanted the latest C2 version so sold them and bought these. In my opinion the C2 might meet tougher EU specs but they no longer work for me for a few reasons.
They are listed as having the suit to boot system but potential purchasers should be aware that they do not have this system. They have an expansion zipper in the calf but that's it. There is no Velcro on the inside of the shin which the matching Velcro on the "in" boots should marry-up with. This means the Velcro on your "in" boots will rub and destroy the liner in the pants in no time. It also means there is a risk of the pants slipping up your leg either as you ride or in the event of an accident. This was my experience of the previous model before I added a Velcro patch on the inside myself.
Whilst the old design didn't have this system either it did have a fall back in the elasticated calf. The entire calf and hem was elastic so you could cinch down the second expansion zipper right to the ankle which would really lock the pants in place. The new design has a fixed hem which doesn't stretch so your expansion is either closed for over the pants type of boots or open. I find in the open position it isn't tight enough and looks hideous (very wide looking calf then narrow ankle). The shin armor is so long it now sits on top of the shin armor in the boots so it is even more unsightly and uncomfortable. This really should be a modular system so the pants armor meets the top of the boot armor in any combination of Dainese pants and boots. I would imagine "out" type boots would have the same issue with overlapping hard armor.
I really wish they had kept the aspects of the previous design which made it work so well with their in boots as in other respects they are good pants. However, as a confirmed "under the suit" boot fan these are a step backwards. Plus they are missing aspects of the system they claim to have.
Rides: 2014 BMW R nineT R9T
Yes, I recommend this product.
+4points
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Alpinestars Race Replica Suit The Alpinestars Racing Replica Suit is the highest-level Alpinestars suit available. Derived and developed from MotoGP technology, the Race Replica Suit can be retrofitted with Alpinestars advanced active protection technology the Tech Air Airbag system to provide the ultimate in rider safety. Constructed from extremely supple, super-premium 1.3mm full-grain leather for exceptional abrasion resistance and durability, with multiple-stitched main seams for maximum tear resistance and ultra-vented front panels for unsurpassed cooling while riding. Features Tech-Air Bag system compatible Speed hump is removable and is replaced by the Tech-Air Bag system when equipped New larger expansion panels on neck, shoulders and laterally on arms Elbow and arms feature a unique, seamless construction PU external forearm protection for enhanced structural strength and abrasion resistance Alpinestars exclusive, patented, high modulus thermoplastic external shoulder protection combines with a unique external one-piece 90 TPU knee and tibia protection for improved protection and reduced drag A soft grip area on inner surface of the knee/leg protection enhances contact with the bike and race-derived, CE certified elbow, knee and tibia protectors Suit comes with Tech Race Back Protector and Tech Chest Protector Tech Race Back Protector is height adjustable PE foam padding at chest and coccyx Auto Lock YKK zippers Comfort suede on collar and cuffs Removable, washable, 100 anti-bacterial inner lining with strategically placed soft foam padding New segmented perforation scheme for added strength Perforated stretch panels Bi-elasticated panels at back of calf provide a custom fit with no compromise to protection Reflective Lumidex piping on White/Red and Black/Yellow/White colorways
 
Overall rating 
4 / 5
4 / 5
Not Quite as Advertised (But Still Good)
PostedAugust 17, 2014
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Braveheart
From Fairfield
State:CT
Rider Type:Gear Geek
Age:35-44
Gender:male
Bang for the Buck 
1 / 5
1 / 5
Style 
2 / 5
2 / 5
Comfort 
5 / 5
5 / 5
Protection & Durability 
5 / 5
5 / 5
Air Flow 
4 / 5
4 / 5
Features 
5 / 5
5 / 5
Let's get one thing out of the way before I comment on the suit. Every review I have read states that this is exactly the same suit worn by the pro riders on the Moto GP and WSBK grids. It is not. It is the same cut and design but there is one difference between what they wear and the consumer version - it is a major one and changes my view of the suit quite considerably.
This suit is made from cowhide and the pro version is clearly made from kangaroo. This difference in materials negates the one big issue I have with the consumer version: weight. This suit is extremely thick and heavy. If Alpinestars had made this from kangaroo skin I would say the high price was justifiable. As it is, this is an extremely expensive and cumbersome one-piece when you could get kangaroo from several other manufacturers for $1000 less.
Don't get me wrong. This is still a high quality suit. It flows air very well - even the accordion panels are perforated - and the finish is flawless. I went over it with the usual fine tooth comb upon receipt and could not find a stitch out of place. It comes with back and chest protectors (other manufacturers take note), the zippers are of the very high quality locking type and the suit feels reassuringly solid. There is an argument that cowhide has more longevity for every day riding and the extra thickness does contribute to the feeling of security. Also, in my experience Alpinestars customer service is better than the other brands operating in this area.
The style doesn't float my boat as much as other Italian manufacturers and I'm not wild about aspects of the high end A-Stars boots and gloves which are the natural partners to this suit. Also, plastic hard parts look and feel low budget in a premium product such as this.
This would have been my main suit but I just could not get away from how heavy and expensive it is. A kangaroo version at around the $2k price point would be a totally different proposition.
Rides: 2014 BMW R nineT R9T
No, I do not recommend this product.
+6points
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Dainese Motorbike Knee High Socks Ergonomics Compression lines to sustain muscles lower vibrations and optimization of blood circulation Ankle support for a better comfort and driving precision Footbed padding to isolate the foot from vibration Anatomical asymmetrical cut, differentiated for right and left foot Padded shinbone and toes for lower boot pressure during the ride Temperature adjustment Heel, footbed and toes made with Nanoglide fabric for higher breathability, temperature regulation, lower moisture and lower friction between skin and fabric to reduce the risk of blisters and skin irritation Ventilated mesh panel on the back of the foot Sizing Small 38-40 Medium 41-43 Large 44-47
 
Overall rating 
1 / 5
1 / 5
Money for Nothing
PostedAugust 9, 2014
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Braveheart
From Fairfield
State:CT
Rider Type:Gear Geek
Age:35-44
Gender:male
Bang for the Buck 
1 / 5
1 / 5
Style 
1 / 5
1 / 5
Comfort 
2 / 5
2 / 5
Protection & Durability 
1 / 5
1 / 5
Air Flow 
1 / 5
1 / 5
Features 
1 / 5
1 / 5
It's a pair of socks so not much to say about features or protection.. They are fine the first time you wear them. Like a lot of Dainese products they are never the same once you wash them. Mine showed pilling and distortion after only one wash on the delicate cycle. You'd be better off buying regular socks that are made to last. They feel like what they are...synthetic and overpriced.
Rides: 2014 BMW R nineT R9T
No, I do not recommend this product.
+1point
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Schuberth SR1 Helmet The Schuberth SR-1 helmet is one of the most technologically advanced helmets available. The Schuberth SR1 is a super-sport helmet which has been developed for optimum performance on the racetrack, and is both ECE and DOT certified. Thanks to its advanced aerodynamics the helmet is at all times stable in the wind and even at high speeds creates no upward lift. Outer Shell The outer shell of the SR1 is offered in three shell sizes and combines an aerodynamically optimal shape suitable for racing with excellent protection Shell material S.T.R.O.N.G. fiber and carbon Special glass fiber reinforced special duroplast matrix with an additional carbon layer to ensure extremely low weight The glass fiber-carbon compound is compressed in a vacuum at a pressure of 4.5 bar to form a helmet shell which is exceptionally sturdy Inner Shell Made of specially optimized EPS foam Used exclusively by Schuberth Complex multizone foaming allows optimal shock absorption Inner Lining In addition to its excellent fit, the pad system of the SR1 also stands out on account of the complex ventilation and extraction system Double-coated Coolmax suspension, skin-friendly with very good warming properties, transports moisture Variable for effective ventilation Fully removable and washable Ergonomic design for maximum wear comfort Antiallergenic / antibacterial material Faceshield Mechanism Extremely quick replacement of the visor shield with Schuberth's push-release system Simple and convenient handling Visor shield is installed and removed without tools Faceshield is Pinlock-ready Pinlock is guaranteed condensation-free thanks to its double glazing technology Schuberth A.R.O.S. The Anti-Roll-Off System (A.R.O.S.) especially developed by Schuberth is provided as a safety feature in every Schuberth motorcycle helmet. It ensures that provided the chinstrap is closed and correctly adjusted The helmet cannot pivot off the head from behind The risk of contact between the chin section of the helmet and the chin or neck of the rider is minimized due to the small angle of tilt The consequences of the helmet coming into contact with the chest as the result of an accident are reduced Race-proven double-D fastener system enables the chinstrap length to be set easily and precisely Aerodynamics Aerodynamic shape Upward lift 0! Directionally stable No oscillatory tendency No buffeting The D-Force spoiler enables the SR1 to be adjusted to the riding posture in such a manner that ideal behavior of the helmet in the air flow is guaranteed at all times Acoustics Schuberth motorcycle and racing helmets are developed and optimized under scientific conditions in the Schuberth wind tunnel Installation of a wind deflector enables the aeroacoustics and consequently the noise level to be improved still further Approximately 88dB(A) at 100 km per hour (with closed machines) Ventilation Visor vent to reduce faceshield fogging 2 head ventilation inlets (adjustable) 2-way chin vent for targeted distribution of the incoming air in the helmet 3-way chin vent Variable pad system Visor vent Head vent Ventilation and cooling of the cheek pads Active air extraction system DOT and ECE-R 22.05 certified. Note Helmet is pictured with dark smoke shield for reference purposes only, dark smoke shield is sold separately.
 
Overall rating 
3 / 5
3 / 5
Another QC Fail...From Germany of All Places!
PostedAugust 8, 2014
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Braveheart
From Fairfield
State:CT
Rider Type:Gear Geek
Age:35-44
Gender:male
Bang for the Buck 
2 / 5
2 / 5
Style 
2 / 5
2 / 5
Comfort 
3 / 5
3 / 5
Protection & Durability 
4 / 5
4 / 5
Air Flow 
4 / 5
4 / 5
Features 
4 / 5
4 / 5
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Weight
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Light
Heavy
I didn't get to ride test this helmet for reasons which shall become clear so the following comments are based on my findings after trying it on at home.
I was looking forward to experiencing the legendary German build quality in this helmet but was surprised to find a loose and wobbly vent switch on the top straight out of the box so never got to ride in it. Revzilla customer service were quick to take it back and refund it as usual - thanks guys. That aside it felt comfortable, well built and not too heavy. The shell size was about the same as my AGV Pista Carbon and it's just a smidge heavier which is no mean feat against the stripped down Italian. The chin bar seems to protrude more than other brands which makes it appear larger than it actually is.
The visor ratchet was quite notchy and the changing system a bit more fiddly than the AGV but it is definitely an improvement over the Arai visor replacement lottery. There is a visor lock slider which seems a bit of overkill and I found it to be too stiff to operate reliably. Good eye port and visibility but the Pista beats all comers in that respect for me, especially in the tuck position.
I really wanted to give it a try as my Pista Carbon is not designed for inclement or cold weather sports touring and I need something great for the fall and winter riding season. It just really puts me off when I find obvious manufacturing flaws being missed by quality control when it comes to a safety product (especially an expensive one).
Rides: 2014 BMW R nineT R9T
No, I do not recommend this product.
-1point
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Dainese 4 Stroke EVO Gloves Protection Composite inserts in preformed stainless steel and thermoplastic resin on the knuckles and back Inserts in thermoplastic resin on the outside of the little finger Inserts in thermoplastic resin at the joints of the fingers Distortion Control on little finger Inserts in thermoplastic polyurethane on the palm and the cuff Gloves certified to CE - Cat. II - Pr-EN 13594/2010 Standard Level. 1 Ergonomics and Comfort Microelastic elasticated inserts Elasticated inserts Pre-curved fingers Micro-injection reinforcement on palm Tightening strap Cowhide leather Goatskin palm High tenacity fabric Reinforced palm One single leather panel to the size of the hand Perforation on inner side of fingers
 
Overall rating 
5 / 5
5 / 5
Amongst the Best Summer Protection
PostedAugust 8, 2014
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Braveheart
From Fairfield
State:CT
Rider Type:Gear Geek
Age:35-44
Gender:male
Bang for the Buck 
4 / 5
4 / 5
Style 
5 / 5
5 / 5
Comfort 
3 / 5
3 / 5
Protection & Durability 
5 / 5
5 / 5
Air Flow 
3 / 5
3 / 5
Features 
5 / 5
5 / 5
Fit
Small
Slightly Small
Large
I have the Full Metal RS gauntlet gloves but needed a shorter summer glove which still afforded a lot of protection which led me to these.
Airflow isn't as good as I'd like it to be but it is good enough for most weather conditions. I'm also not convinced about the so called "Rossi ticklers", as Anthony refers to them. I have them on both my main sets of riding gloves and feel they may contribute to accelerated grip wear but don't notice any real benefit to feel. I'd rather have softer, thinner kangaroo palms like you find in Held gloves to improve feel over an additional, somewhat gimmicky obstruction between my hand and the throttle.
I can't fault the protection though. For a short street glove it is superb - hard parts and sliders everywhere. I don't feel I am losing anything from the Full Metal RS that isn't already redundant for the majority of street riding.
For me it came down to these and the Held short race glove. I went with the Dainese gloves as there is just a little bit more hard protection and the fit is slightly better for me. Plus, as usual, the Dainese styling is just great.
Rides: 2014 BMW R nineT R9T
Yes, I recommend this product.
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 Dainese Speed Naked Perforated Leather Jacket
Dainese Speed Naked Perforated Leather Jacket
Dainese Speed Naked Perforated Leather Jacket The Dainese Speed Naked Leather Jacket is characterized by a unique style and a great personality, combined with enviable attention to detail. The perforated leather is treated with resin for a vintage look, and the aluminum inserts on the shoulders are coupled with Pro-Shape soft protectors for superior comfort. Also available in a non-perforated version. Protection Composite protectors certified to EN 1621.1/97 Standards on the elbows Pro Shape soft protectors certified to Standard EN 1621.1/97 on the shoulders Aluminium inserts on the shoulders Ergonomics and Comfort Perforated vintage cow leather S1 fabric Microelastic elasticated inserts Inserts in elasticated fabric Elasticated inserts Waist adjustment Neck adjustment Jacket-trousers fastening system Air inlets on the chest NanoFeel liner with 3D Bubble fabric inserts Other Pocket for G1 and G2 back protector Pocket for Thorax chest protector Soft inserts 2 outer pockets 1 internal pocket Note non-perforated version of Dark Brown is shown for color reference.
 
Overall rating 
5 / 5
5 / 5
A Fantastic Summer Jacket
PostedAugust 8, 2014
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Braveheart
From Fairfield
State:CT
Rider Type:Gear Geek
Age:35-44
Gender:male
Bang for the Buck 
4 / 5
4 / 5
Style 
5 / 5
5 / 5
Comfort 
5 / 5
5 / 5
Protection & Durability 
4 / 5
4 / 5
Air Flow 
5 / 5
5 / 5
Features 
4 / 5
4 / 5
Fit
Small
Slightly Small
Large
Let me say right from the beginning...I adore this jacket. It's not without flaws but it manages to offset those with a great feature set.
I have two complaints to get out of the way before I tell you what's good about it. Firstly, like many Dainese products, the zippers are abysmal. They feel cheap and flimsy. When I wear brands such as Alpinestars with locking zippers it really shows up how bad the Dainese ones are. Come on big D - give us quality zippers.
My second complaint is also common to all relevant Dainese products and that is in the area of perforation. Every other brand I own or have tried manages to perforate their leather in a clean and tidy fashion. With Dainese leather, from the top of the range kangaroo to the regular cowhide products I have I find the little leather discs still adhered to their hole from which they were punched. It makes for a very untidy first impression - I should not have to go over a premium price product and remove manufacturing detritus.
Now for the good part. It looks amazing. It flows air like a mesh jacket but protects like leather. It has a longer drop at the back so you don't flash your underwear to the driver behind you, even leaned over on a sports bike. It has pockets for additional armor. It fits my slim frame like it was tailor made for me. The color schemes it is available in are both tasteful and badass. It looks great on nearly every style of bike.
I abandoned my plans to buy a mesh jacket for the height of summer after riding in this. It's that well ventilated. Highly recommended.
Rides: 2014 BMW R nineT R9T
Yes, I recommend this product.
+2points
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Dainese Manis Back Protector Insert Protection Back protector certified to CE - Cat. II - EN 1621.2/2003 level 2 Ergonomics and Comfort Back protector with 4 degrees of freedom Longitudinal stretch Longitudinal bending Torsion Lateral bending controlled by special tensioner External perforated plates Crash absorb perforated absorption material Reduced contact area Specifications Choose G1 for Women's Jackets Choose G2 for Men's Jackets Denoted as Dainese Manis G1 and Manis G2 in the Dainese catalog
 
Overall rating 
3 / 5
3 / 5
Too Inflexible and Too Big
PostedAugust 8, 2014
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Braveheart
From Fairfield
State:CT
Rider Type:Gear Geek
Age:35-44
Gender:male
Bang for the Buck 
3 / 5
3 / 5
Style 
2 / 5
2 / 5
Comfort 
1 / 5
1 / 5
Protection & Durability 
3 / 5
3 / 5
Air Flow 
1 / 5
1 / 5
Features 
3 / 5
3 / 5
Fit
Small
Slightly Large
Large
Prior to trying this I used a Wave G2 in all my Dainese jackets but was never happy with the inflexibility of that product. The Manis insert promises to alleviate that stiff feeling with several elasticated joints and interlocking plates.
Unfortunately, in practice it is only marginally more flexible than its predecessor - there is still a distinct "hunchback" look when inserted in any compatible jacket. The protector really protrudes quite obviously and you can feel it as you ride, especially on a sportsbike. Furthermore, when inserting it I really struggled to get it past the zipper in my current generation Dainese jackets with which it is supposed to be compatible. I really had to pull the opening apart quite forcefully and was sure the zipper would break as the widest part of the Manis insert is wider than the opening in the jacket. There definitely needs to be work done on the tolerance of insert to opening on the jackets being produced.
On the plus side it covers a larger area than the Wave did but the ergonomics, comfort and conspicuous appearance led me to drop it in favor of other products (specifically the d3o viper range).
I wish I could recommend this product - I am a Dainese fanboy and like to keep 100% to that brand where I can but this is another let down.
Rides: 2014 BMW R nineT R9T
No, I do not recommend this product.
+2points
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Dainese Manis Back Protector The Manis Back Protector offers CE Level 2 Protection and the most advanced design characterizes this innovative back protector that breaks the classic design pattern and sets new ergonomic standards. Innovative construction solutions give the protector 3 more degrees of freedom than protectors of the past, thus allowing it to closely replicate all the shapes of the human back in typical motorcycle racing positions. The protector is capable of extending or retracting by bending, in this way following the movements of the torso. It is also able to bend and twist to follow the lateral bending movements of the body. The composite sandwich is the result of Dainese's 30 years of experience in the design of back protectors, the external plates with controlled elastic return movement are made of polypropylene and coupled to the Crash Absorb. A final layer of comfort material ensures precise coupling with the surface anatomy of the back. The protector is characterized by large perforations and very small surfaces in contact with the body to provide maximum thermal comfort, while the lightweight design completes the design harmony of this revolutionary back protection system. Protection Back protector certified according to the standard EN1621.2/2003 ( Level 2 ) Articulated external plates with controlled mobility, made of polypropylene with perforated and corrugated structure. Inner core in perforated Crash absorb Localized comfort padding Ergonomics and Comfort Back protector with 4 degrees of freedom 1 - Longitudinal stretch 2 - Longitudinal bending 3 - Torsion 4 - Lateral bending controlled by special tensioners External perforated plates Crash Absorb perforated absorption material Reduced contact area Sizing Sizing is dependent on both height and chest circumference. Height is measured from your shoulders to your natural waist, which will determine which Type is necessary. Chest circumference is measured at the widest point around your chest, usually just under the arm pits. Shoulder to waist length determines Type Type 49 14.75-16.5 (37.5cm-42cm) Type 55 16.15-17.75 (41cm - 45cm) Type 59 17.3-18.9 (44cm-48cm) Type 65 18.5-20.5 (47cm-52cm) Chest circumference determines Size Size SM 37 (94cm) Size MD 39.4 (100cm) Size LG 41.7 (106cm) Size XL 43.4 (110cm) Other Adjustable and removable straps Adjustable lumbar strip with double Velcro Note Depending on size, Back Protector will have more or fewer segments than image shown.
 
Overall rating 
2 / 5
2 / 5
A Nicely Marketed but Deeply Flawed Product
PostedAugust 8, 2014
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Braveheart
From Fairfield
State:CT
Rider Type:Gear Geek
Age:35-44
Gender:male
Bang for the Buck 
2 / 5
2 / 5
Style 
4 / 5
4 / 5
Comfort 
4 / 5
4 / 5
Protection & Durability 
3 / 5
3 / 5
Air Flow 
1 / 5
1 / 5
Features 
3 / 5
3 / 5
The best way I can sum up this product is by saying it's a compelling "high concept" design which is unfortunately totally impractical in real world use. The inspiration from nature in the flexible, interlinking plates makes perfect sense and helps sell the "sizzle" but after several attempts to make it work for me I cannot recommend this as a product.
The first Manis I received was actually broken right out of the packaging. One of the elastic plate retainers had snapped. Not a great first impression for a safety product and a quality control fail. Of course, Revzilla stepped up, as usual, and got me a replacement immediately. That's when the problems really started...
The fundamental design issue with this protector is that the bottom edges of each of the plates catch the nape of your racing suit as you pull it on. This problem is exacerbated if your suit has a soft fabric or neoprene area there (which most Dainese suits have). Once your suit is snagged under one of those you need someone to help you unhook it to get the suit over your shoulders or lower the suit and try again. Ten times out of ten it snagged on three different Dainese suits I have. I'm guessing if it slips over without any problems your suit is too loose or you are a contortionist. I tried the Manis in every size and tried it with different suits with the same results. I am guessing they tested the impact protection of the product but completely omitted to give it to a rider and ask him to pull a suit over it himself, unaided, as this flaw would have revealed itself immediately under those circumstances.
There is also a point of view that hard plastic back protectors are at risk of pinching the leather against the Tarmac in a slide which can lead to faster erosion. This makes perfect sense to me but I can't vouch for the veracity or cite the specific research so it would be worth looking into the pros and cons of hard vs soft armor if you are a serious track day rider. What I do know is that I have yet to have an issue with the soft d3o, Sas-Tec, Knox type of armor which "tenses-up" in an impact. Much more comfortable, less conspicuous, just as protective on paper and, compared to the Manis, unobtrusive when pulling a race suit over it. In fact, I'm not sure why Dainese and other manufacturers don't follow the BMW / Held method of integrating a soft level 2 back protector into the suit lining. I guess it gives them another product to market.
Rides: 2014 BMW R nineT R9T
No, I do not recommend this product.
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